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BTW, good to see you posting more, I enjoy reading them.
Little creeps still have me wrapped around their fingers, and they're pushing thirty!
I took it out a year later as a Christmas gift for him. He told me that was the only thing he wanted.
My daughter has no desire to get her ears pierced right now. She decides that she wants it, sure. But not until then.
If you go in for the giant tribal hula hoops in the ear, you're stuck with a permanent reminder,and if you chose to bling out your wedding tackle, there may well be permanent scarring.
The average piercing however, will heal over without leaving you looking like an out of work carny for the rest of your days.
Tattoos on the other hand, like love and herpes; are forever.
BabyGirl G. is older than KatyBeth and *still* has zero interest in pierced ears...
Didn't get anything stabbed or scribbled until I was 20, for the record.
I agree with LabRat- when she's old enough, and committed enough, to keep it clean and healing well by herself.
Once she's 18, I figure it will be her business, and I have no problem with what she decides, except I'll lobby against anything that causes permanent nerve damage.
10 years later mom had hers pierced and I grounded her. :)
We raised our neice and the same words came out of my mouth. She's now 21 and has had her tongue pierced for years. FOR WHAT?????
She doesn't even have her drivers license because she is scared to try to get it. You can have your TONGUE pierced by you can't frigging parallel park!
Feeling your pain,
J
Point being, to each his own. KB is young yet, but they all do grow up and do things we don't love at some point.
Oh, and btw....both are now college grads and productive members of society....reliable, responsible employees.
She's had no interest in tattos or other piercings, about which I'm pretty happy.
Not that I could stop her, she being 24 and all.
you most likely won't be but i bet your girl is smart enough not to tell you.
Dad persistently and adamantly kept saying no; with no solid reason why he thought that way until my mother really pinned him down on it. He then replied that only BAD (those kind of) women got their ears pierced.
Mom then fired back (righteously so) "Well, I've got my ears pierced - so what does that make me???"
For one of the few moments in life that I knew of, he was speechless. She totally deflated his argument with her logic. He then had to reluctantly concede that it was okay for her to have her ears pierced, therefore, he relented on his decision about my potential ear piercing.
I got my ears pierced ASAP but only after agreeing to wear only tasteful, dainty earrings - no dangly, sleazy stuff. I kept the bargain all the way through ... and finally got my second and last ear piercing when I was 23.
I have no tattoos, however, have contemplated it, but nothing definite yet.
I agree with not piercing ears of babies and little, real little girls - not until they're capable of taking care of the piercings and being responsible for their earrings, etc.
Body piercing - no way!! Not for me. I've heard too many horror stories of piercings gone wrong or swallowed tongue studs, umbilical piercings torn out, etc. I'll pass on that. ;D
It's really rough for Dads to see their daughters begin to grow up. You just can't turn back the clock, but stick to your principles. Some things you just can't reverse easily.
Oldest granddaughter got hers at 10. Parental approval necessary for suitable adornments. All the other fifth grade girls also got them, which made for really cheap and appropriate Christmas presents. Her 7-year-old sister, of course, is pushing hard. I don't THINK she will beat the age limit. Said feminine older granddaughter is also a killer athlete and student. The balance ain't bad. just so you know. The future is arriving faster than you think.
I think body mods are an ageist thing...my mother (at 80 yrs) never has had her ears pierced, I (at 53)have 2 holes in each ear and a couple of tattoos (course I am a pagan and a biker) the generation behind me has those scarification marks and implants (them things just freak me out! how do you keep yourself from staring at them?)
I used to work in a call center as a manager...we had a "business casual" dress code - so one day I'm going up the stairs to the training dept and there's a new hire coming down the stairs. He has tribal tattoos coming up his neck outta his collar and onto his face, he has ear stretchers in both ears, implanted horns, 2 rings in his upper and lower lip and waist long dreadlocks....
but he was wearing a shirt and tie...so he met our dress code...(on an aside...I never did figure out how he talked on the phone without those rings clanging..but he did)
eye of the beholder I guess...course I don't have a young daughter either...
The way those piercing guns work, they crush the flesh rather than make a hole. There's also no good way to get them sterile.
BTW, I didn't get my ears pierced until I was 20 and I did it myself. Don't recommend the ice cube and Jack Daniels piercing method either.
As for the body piercing, if I ever have a daughter, she'd better be at LEAST in high school. Tattoos...thats up to them when they are fully adults. I didnt get mine till recently, when I was sure I wanted to live with them.
I had told my daughter to wait till she was 12...then my ex-hubby got them pierced before then when she was on her summer visit...grrr.
Sorry for the length...and this may have been something my mother made up to keep me from getting my own ears pierced...but I vaguely remember that piercing before puberty can hinder the absorption of some mineral or something.
When she wouldn't clean them properly and wouldn't let me clean them, the earrings came out and the holes closed up. She can try again when she's 13. :)
Angie
1. The average small child won't be able to do a good job of aftercare. I don't need to tell you about the importance of keeping a wound clean while it's healing. You know your daughter well enough to say whether she's up for the job.
2. A child's body will change as she grows. Those holes that are nicely even now might wind up with one higher than the other once she's done growing--she doesn't want to look lopsided. A reputable piercer (i.e. not the untrained mallrats with guns) will recommend you wait until you're done growing before getting a permanent body modification.
If she MUST do it, have it done someplace where they use one-time-use needles. The needles are used once and discarded (no risk of transferring disease or infection from a previous use) and the needles are hollow and very sharp (it hurts a hell of a lot less).
Those mall places that use the guns? Run away. The guns cannot be autoclaved/sterilized, and they work by punching a solid stud into the earlobe--does a lot more trauma to the flesh, takes longer to heal, and hurts like a mofo. I had my ears done both ways (first with a gun second time with a needle) and I can tell you the needle is a LOT less painful, and my ears didn't wind up with horrible infections afterwards.
Now I have three daughters, and it's not on their radar at all. Of course, I wear earrings only rarely, so it's not something they're exposed to much.
The current plan is that they are allowed to do it at menarche, but even then I will not encourage it (and as others have said, they're going to a reputable piercer).
I'm just lucky my ex-husband is still enough afraid of me that he probably won't go behind my back and get it done. (Actually, I don't think he realizes he can, legally, & I'm really happy about that.)
I may not have much say in this since I am not a parent myself, but from the point of the daughter... pick your battles AD. :) At least I waited until I was out of the house to get my first tattoo.
All of the girls in the family looked forward to the special event. It was a really cool tradition, and we've started it with my neice already.
At 10, we were fairly responsible enough to twist the earings daily, and make sure it was clean, etc. So I think I would agree to it, if I ever have a daughter
A few years later when she was in college, she asked my about getting a "small" tattoo. I told her if she was into self multilation, why didn't she just stand in front of a mirror and slap herself silly. She didn't like that response but she didn't get a tattoo either.
Now she's married and a mother of three. A few months ago she said she was thinking about getting a small tattoo on her ankle. (A friend of her and her hubby at their church has one.) I just looked at her and didn't say a word.
Far as I know, she still hasn't gotten at tattoo. From time-to-time, she and the kids will sport washable tats, but that's all.
It's just stupid, really.
For much the same reason a newborn boy with his foreskin forcibly removed doesn't. It's de rigeur in our society.
I, too, hate seeing small children (of either gender!) with pierced ears. I just don't see the necessity.
"It's not part of our culture."
Word Verification: "Hymatic" -- Sounds like an automated deflowering device.
Mom broke dad down when I was 10 but I get why they waited, they're hard work to keep clean and if she has sensitive skin she'll have to have only gold -- mine react to even stainless steel.
And lest anyone accuse me of being inconsistent, I refused unnecessary aesthetic modifications on my little boy, too. ;)
Ms. Who- have you never had anything pierced? That clothespin thing you describe would be orders of magnitude worse than just about any piercing save a large-gauge cartilage job.
Word verifiction: "redneste"- the genitals of a backwoods meth-head woman.
(Word verification: trinests...for birds into menage-a-tois.)
When I was in grade 5 (a gazillion years ago), my teacher pierced my ears at recess, using her fingers to pinch (to numb them) and a needle and a potato. My parents never gave permission (and the teacher would never have thought to ask). Any teacher who did that nowadays would be sued to high heaven! Probably rightfully so.
Jim
And remember; while they may change the way people are perceived, piercings don't change who you are. She's still your same little girl, just a little sparklier now
Can someone explain to me why a 12-month-old with pierced ears doesn't result in child abuse charges for someone?
Matt, it's for the same reason that having your infant inocculated against diseases, or given a blood test doesn't result in child abuse charges. There is no more pain or (if done by a professional) danger than either of those procedures.
Heck, some doctors actually hook babies up to IV's, which is exponentially more painful than having one's ears pierced. I think a bit of "perspective" might do you well.
Pick your battles. :)
Plus, the potential for infection with those medical needles pretty much ends with the injection. Not necessarily so for a piercing.
Up until then, I'm restricting them to stick-on and clip-on earrings.
Definitely no infant piercings, for me - if I want my kids to look "cute," I can find a set of stick-ons!